tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post84664277432883028..comments2024-03-27T06:15:18.574-04:00Comments on GOLF GIRL'S DIARY: Male Sports Scribbler Sees Sexism in Tiger's ComebackAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04225531813848577032noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-18752696149904596042010-03-19T09:21:45.631-04:002010-03-19T09:21:45.631-04:00Good Lord, Ashgolf, it's "make" not ...Good Lord, Ashgolf, it's "make" not meke<br /><br />and it is a sacrifice some of us are clearly not willing to make.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-45346707980659882422010-03-19T01:26:33.068-04:002010-03-19T01:26:33.068-04:00I agree with "Refugee's' take on the ...I agree with "Refugee's' take on the matter for the most part. TW is not the first golfer to have a woman in every town (or in his case, on every tee it seems.) He's just a guy who wanted it both ways.ducks 64https://www.blogger.com/profile/17389335190149569036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-15997223213421166152010-03-18T21:57:14.754-04:002010-03-18T21:57:14.754-04:00The analogy of the separation of church and state ...The analogy of the separation of church and state seems to apply here. I love that people feel the need to inject their opinions and feelings into this scandal when it totally has no bearing. I applaud your position that someone else's transgressions in their personal lives should not be taken personally by others outside of the situation.jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04282973237120028689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-15063535618257468452010-03-18T20:29:53.909-04:002010-03-18T20:29:53.909-04:00The vast majority of men are just as excluded from...The vast majority of men are just as excluded from Augusta National as women are. <br /><br />I think people have started to see it for what it a kind of time capsule. A very exclusive private club that happens to host a public golf tournament. <br /><br />There are a couple of clubs out in AZ right now that are in court fighting segregation charges. But these are cases where women are members and pay the same amount as men, but can't use some of the restaurants and can't get the good tee times. Apparently they don't make this known, and in one of the cases a woman found out and wanted to quit, but they wouldn't give her her money back. Most feel the clubs will lose these cases.langstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03571749548852885605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-23317213614549697002010-03-18T17:13:43.958-04:002010-03-18T17:13:43.958-04:00I see it too and it is not only the Tiger Woods st...I see it too and it is not only the Tiger Woods story. I meet a lot of men lately who make it seem like they are making a big sacrifice by not cheating. They meke it seem like for men not cheating is something tremendously difficult and they should be praised for it.ashgolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11807043807126309989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-44261345755149938882010-03-18T17:05:25.037-04:002010-03-18T17:05:25.037-04:00Girl - Watch out for the spelling police! ;))) I&...Girl - Watch out for the spelling police! ;))) I've noticed the exact same thing. Many Men see this as a story full of women victims, & they think all women should feel victimized by it. The fact is, most women I know don't relate to Elin because we know nothing about her except that she was married to a billionaire sports icon, and we don't relate to the mistresses, as we don't date married men. So, no victims for us to relate to. We don't personalize this story.jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12579437837715863327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-3509719493375450952010-03-18T16:44:43.563-04:002010-03-18T16:44:43.563-04:00Sorry for the spelling my proof reader had the day...Sorry for the spelling my proof reader had the day off :o) Corrected, corrected. Thanks... Oh, and ...take marriage so glibly and casually? Me?Patricia Hanniganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13221547585113488764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-8575241878135813362010-03-18T16:35:01.790-04:002010-03-18T16:35:01.790-04:00Good Lord, Patricia, it's "Daily News&quo...Good Lord, Patricia, it's "Daily News" not "Daley News" and segue, not segway, (isn't that a store:):)<br /><br />I'm glad the rest of the world doesn't take marriage so glibly and casually as you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-73148470103560876742010-03-18T12:46:10.640-04:002010-03-18T12:46:10.640-04:00Yes, I guess my point is more that I've encoun...Yes, I guess my point is more that I've encountered so many guys... such as the author of the Daily News article... who try to convince me that my opinion of Tiger Woods should be shaped by the fact that I'm a woman... and that I should take his actions, both in his marriage and in choosing to come back at Augusta should as an affront against women. And I just don't. I think Tiger is an equal opportunity affronter. ;)<br /><br />I simply like golf better with Tiger Woods in it. Period. Not that I don't love (and write about) myriad other much less famous players ... I DO. much more often than most other writers do (to be honest I never covered Tiger that much - neither before the scandal or since).<br /><br />It's just interesting because I do feel that men judge him more harshly than women in general and I was curious as to whether other people found that.Patricia Hanniganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13221547585113488764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-81741385231735366852010-03-18T11:19:38.293-04:002010-03-18T11:19:38.293-04:00His marriage is an intensely personal matter. But ...His marriage is an intensely personal matter. But his fabricated image used to flog loads of gear as a squeaky clean family man is not. The TW brand was deliberately misleading to rake in more dollars.THE GOLF REFUGEES WEBLOGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01066000048905545278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-89241023246889781382010-03-18T10:18:27.039-04:002010-03-18T10:18:27.039-04:00Basically, this writer seems have an issue with Au...Basically, this writer seems have an issue with Augusta National. He's a New York liberal so naturally "an Augusta National issue" is in his DNA.thegolfsharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12134394081965354826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-53160349882608922092010-03-18T10:05:17.275-04:002010-03-18T10:05:17.275-04:00For any one person to think any other person shoul...For any one person to think any other person should share their sentiment or outrage on a particularly sensitive sexual topic is ludicrous. In that regard, Flip Bondy is more ridiculous than Al Bundy.<br /><br />Chris Rock says that men are "as faithful as their options"...Hmmm<br /><br />Let's discuss only male infidelity. I do not have problems with males who are generally outraged by Tiger's actions. If, they are remaining faithful for the right reasons.<br /><br />I maintain that given the opportunity to be with an incredibly beautiful woman without ANY chance whatsoever of being found out is a good test. But, you don't take that test at home on the couch watching 'Home Alone II' with the wife and kids. You are on a business trip, a golf trip or just at a bar with some buddies and you have had a few beers and this incredibly sexy woman walks up, whispers in your ear and hands you the key to her room. If you can refuse to participate, I will listen to any criticism you have of other people's morals. <br /><br />Pardon my crudeness, but there are guys who are either very unattractive, have zero personalities or have certain body odors and could not get laid with a fistful of fifties. I have zero interest in what you have to say.Vince Spencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10761454912786879102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-44722635203911884632010-03-18T06:35:07.148-04:002010-03-18T06:35:07.148-04:00The women I've talked are not happy with Mr. W...The women I've talked are not happy with Mr. Woods AT ALL, but they don't see it as a reflection of their own marriage either. Why should they? <br /><br />Not many people can relate to the kind of life Mr. Woods has. IMHO the scandal simply distances Mr. Woods even more from their lives. <br /><br />Family and kids make some of our "superheroes" appear more <i>real</i> or <i>like us</i>. But they are not. They are very different in many, many ways.Heather Kerriganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09479515041675909393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-62719490951437669012010-03-18T04:53:40.364-04:002010-03-18T04:53:40.364-04:00What TW did was not a simple affair where he gave ...What TW did was not a simple affair where he gave into a simple desire for another. Tiger didn't make a misstep and fall. Somewhere else I alluded to Rocky running up the steps in Philadelphia in the movie.<br /><br />Tiger seems to have fallen down each of those steps. It's too bad he did not say "D'oh" the way Homer Simpson might have at each step. If he had, he might have realized he was out of control.ducks 64https://www.blogger.com/profile/17389335190149569036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-60280080715164024302010-03-18T03:21:17.313-04:002010-03-18T03:21:17.313-04:00hmmmm
this sounds much like your post on my facebo...hmmmm<br />this sounds much like your post on my facebook wall when the story broke a few months back. At that time I was trying to repair a relationship damaged by infidelity in my past. I am not being sanctimonious when I say my opinion of Tiger has been damaged.<br /><br />I don't see a difference between men and women. Overall people seem to break into thirds: one third just sees Tiger the greatest golfer in history...nothing else matters, the third group has lost all respect for Tiger as morals trump golf ability. In the middle is a huge group that respects Tiger the golfer, and are dissapointed by Tiger the man ...most of us are waiting to see what happens. He is just a human...like us...he is not perfect...although his golf game sometimes makes him seem perfect.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17553797306552442095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-88133845273705083052010-03-18T00:03:05.146-04:002010-03-18T00:03:05.146-04:00That's it. The envelope keeps getting pushed f...That's it. The envelope keeps getting pushed further and further. <br /><br />The other day I saw an ad on a normal channel and a normal hour... for a married dating service. And it was presented as ... totally normal! The tagline was "life is short, have an affair". <br /><br />Um, when did that become OK? Then we're shocked when we find our about someone we respect having an affair?Patricia Hanniganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13221547585113488764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-90770606514697864652010-03-17T23:28:43.881-04:002010-03-17T23:28:43.881-04:00I have said it on Twitter, Facebook, and maybe on ...I have said it on Twitter, Facebook, and maybe on this blog:<br /><br />Society has allowed a change in moral values and its institutions treat morality differently. Yes, at one time a man's word and vows were honored. To do so brought shame down on him from all angles.<br /><br />Now we have lawyers who draw up agreements to cover all angles while other lawyers find that one loophole that is perhaps caused by a change in law or in society's perception.<br /><br />We find literature, TV, movies, etc. extolling the ability of people to be unfaithful but still have everything work out good at the end of the plot. We are saturated with this change in "values".<br /><br />Men and women, during whatever level of strength or weakness, are giving in to unfaithfulness of varying degrees. Now we have counselors to "cure" their 'disease'. Society has changed and few have stood up and said anything about it.<br /><br />Tiger is part of this society as we all are. He 'lost his way' like so many have. He had to money to make the lust go to levels few can afford. How many people do we learn about who have 1 or more children from different partners in or out of marriage.<br /><br />If society favors this behavior in general then we can't condemn it on an individual basis while this behavior runs amuck all over our nations. If we are to condemn Tiger then we better condemn everyone who has been found out to have engaged in this type of behavior.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17650929018247834164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-33891291295832376622010-03-17T23:04:45.367-04:002010-03-17T23:04:45.367-04:00I just feel like what happens in a marriage is int...I just feel like what happens in a marriage is intensely personal and I wouldn't venture to pass judgment on a marriage from the outside... there are too many variables. And in this particular scandal I feel like men were far quicker to pass judgment on Tiger Woods than women were.<br /><br />Additionally I had so many men telling me that "as a woman", I should be offended ... if they had said "as a person" you should be offended but they didn't seem to see it that way. It's an interesting topic though ... thanks for commenting. :O)Patricia Hanniganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04708679090143402420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2640652526116928447.post-58686679567262996982010-03-17T22:45:31.771-04:002010-03-17T22:45:31.771-04:00With all due respect - and I enjoy your blog - you...With all due respect - and I enjoy your blog - your attitude seems a bit cavalier. There was a time when a man's word, and his marriage vows, meant something. If a man's word is no good, then he is no good. In golf you don't like to play with cheaters. In business you don't like dealing with liars and cheats, You can make judgments without being judgmental. all my bestterGeorge Duncanhttp://endtimestavern.comnoreply@blogger.com