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Yes, for one thing men have an issue because she's so often insisted on playing with the men on exemptions and lots of guy feel she's taking the place of a hard working guy who doesn't quite make it. They feel like she takes all the attention at these events too.
Most women see her as a pioneer that break through the status quo...Most men are freaking out because she is challenging their manhood and the world as they know it and want it to be.
It is one of those 'you can have as much right as you want, as long as I have more right than you'.
It is pathetic, really.
Granted, her camp is botching a lot of things. But she is not breaking the law and yet she is getting more scorned than most common criminals.
Hey Pat: A round of golf with Michelle would be a swell Father's Day gift. Re your question, some men do, some don't. Some would like to play a round with her, and others would like to play around with her. Some alums stopped contributing to my Big Green alma mater when women were first admitted; I wouldn't have attended if women hadn't been admitted. Let's not drive a wedge between the sexes; we need the style and enthusiasm you and your golfing sisters bring to the game. I caddied for many fine women golfers back in the day, and I was on the bag for the winner of the New Jersey State Amateur. She'd be welcome in my foursome anytime and we would clean up. She didn't miss many fairways and from 100 yards in she was money in the bank. When, not if, young Michelle gets her game together she'll be more fun to watch and fewer golfers of any gender or orientation will question where she plays. BTW, the NJ Women's Champ was the only loop to kiss me when we won.
Patricia, your pathetic attempt at gender baiting certainly gave me a chuckle. I think I speak for many guys when I say that I was a fan when Wie first came out. A young kid, could hit it a mile, seemed poised and polite, taking on the big guns. Who wouldn't root for that? Then came the rudeness, the arrogance, the poor performances one after another, the lame excuses, the '88 incident', the sense of entitlement, the lack of respect for the game and her peers. Now the question is: Who would root for that?
C'mon, Patricia. You seem like an intelligent person. Lay off the lame gender baiting and rationalizations that I see you post all over the web and see it for what it is. Pathetic.
She doesn't have many friends among the the woman on the LPGA Tour. Why? Because she turned her back on them to continue the PR stunt of "competing" on the PGA Tour. And when she does play LPGA events, she causes a big stir, even though she's usually way out of contention in the tournaments.
So I imagine women would have more of a bone to pick with Ms. Wie.
Personally, I don't care one way or the other. But $20 Mil in endorsements is a lot to pay someone who's never won a pro tournament.
Thanks everyone...lot's of great feedback here. I'll try to address some of the points raised in my next post. I pologize if I came off as gender baiting...I assure that wasn't my intention. Never is. Lively, passionate discussion, amongst guys and girls... that's my intention.
Pat, I guess you are waiting on me before you drop the other shoe on this issue.
So here it is.
MW is old news. She came on the scene as a novelty and was entertaining to watch and we all got a kick out of imagining what it would look like with her and Tiger both dressed in their Sunday Red coming down the 18th fairway at Augusta...or at least I was imagining that .
But now her partners, who obviously wanting to capitalize on her talents, are at fault for letting Michelle miss this most memorial part of her life. She should have stayed in the juniors and got her ass beat by the boys and girls her age a few time so she could learn how to win with the big boys and girls.
Her attitude towards the profession of golf and the non-golf management team her parents have hired to promote her is now rushing her to the end of her career before it got started.
My suggestion is she step back, go to college, fit back into her age group and live off the interest of the $20mil she has in the bank...out in California and Hawaii that should last her about a year...then go back and show people that she can play and act like a professional.
So there , you got my professional opinion...hope that helps.
She is quite the distraction. Especially when she wears strappy red dresses. How dare she be herself? Doesn't she know a woman's place is on the other golf course?
I hope she goes to Stanford and makes the team. How can a person be washed up, "old news", at age...17?
Yes, for one thing men have an issue because she's so often insisted on playing with the men on exemptions and lots of guy feel she's taking the place of a hard working guy who doesn't quite make it. They feel like she takes all the attention at these events too.
ReplyDeleteIf women like her snotty, effed up attitude that's their problem.
ReplyDeleteOK Patricia, Now that things have really heated up. I'll be curious to get your take.
ReplyDeleteAt this point everyone has trouble with Michelle Wie. Hes spoiled attitude and the smarmy team she travels with have assured that.
ReplyDeleteYeah the tide is turning now, I jus gave up my WW status.
ReplyDeleteShe's rich and famous before becoming good. That sort of thing can make people resentful.
ReplyDeletePat,
ReplyDeleteYou are bang on...
Most women see her as a pioneer that break through the status quo...Most men are freaking out because she is challenging their manhood and the world as they know it and want it to be.
It is one of those 'you can have as much right as you want, as long as I have more right than you'.
It is pathetic, really.
Granted, her camp is botching a lot of things. But she is not breaking the law and yet she is getting more scorned than most common criminals.
Hey Pat:
ReplyDeleteA round of golf with Michelle would be a swell Father's Day gift. Re your question, some men do, some don't. Some would like to play a round with her, and others would like to play around with her. Some alums stopped contributing to my Big Green alma mater when women were first admitted; I wouldn't have attended if women hadn't been admitted. Let's not drive a wedge between the sexes; we need the style and enthusiasm you and your golfing sisters bring to the game. I caddied for many fine women golfers back in the day, and I was on the bag for the winner of the New Jersey State Amateur. She'd be welcome in my foursome anytime and we would clean up. She didn't miss many fairways and from 100 yards in she was money in the bank. When, not if, young Michelle gets her game together she'll be more fun to watch and fewer golfers of any gender or orientation will question where she plays. BTW, the NJ Women's Champ was the only loop to kiss me when we won.
Patricia, your pathetic attempt at gender baiting certainly gave me a chuckle. I think I speak for many guys when I say that I was a fan when Wie first came out. A young kid, could hit it a mile, seemed poised and polite, taking on the big guns. Who wouldn't root for that? Then came the rudeness, the arrogance, the poor performances one after another, the lame excuses, the '88 incident', the sense of entitlement, the lack of respect for the game and her peers. Now the question is: Who would root for that?
ReplyDeleteC'mon, Patricia. You seem like an intelligent person. Lay off the lame gender baiting and rationalizations that I see you post all over the web and see it for what it is. Pathetic.
She doesn't have many friends among the the woman on the LPGA Tour. Why? Because she turned her back on them to continue the PR stunt of "competing" on the PGA Tour.
ReplyDeleteAnd when she does play LPGA events, she causes a big stir, even though she's usually way out of contention in the tournaments.
So I imagine women would have more of a bone to pick with Ms. Wie.
Personally, I don't care one way or the other. But $20 Mil in endorsements is a lot to pay someone who's never won a pro tournament.
Thanks everyone...lot's of great feedback here. I'll try to address some of the points raised in my next post. I pologize if I came off as gender baiting...I assure that wasn't my intention. Never is. Lively, passionate discussion, amongst guys and girls... that's my intention.
ReplyDeleteI like Michelle Wie! Besides being a great golfer she is cute too.
ReplyDeletePat, I guess you are waiting on me before you drop the other shoe on this issue.
ReplyDeleteSo here it is.
MW is old news. She came on the scene as a novelty and was entertaining to watch and we all got a kick out of imagining what it would look like with her and Tiger both dressed in their Sunday Red coming down the 18th fairway at Augusta...or at least I was imagining that .
But now her partners, who obviously wanting to capitalize on her talents, are at fault for letting Michelle miss this most memorial part of her life. She should have stayed in the juniors and got her ass beat by the boys and girls her age a few time so she could learn how to win with the big boys and girls.
Her attitude towards the profession of golf and the non-golf management team her parents have hired to promote her is now rushing her to the end of her career before it got started.
My suggestion is she step back, go to college, fit back into her age group and live off the interest of the $20mil she has in the bank...out in California and Hawaii that should last her about a year...then go back and show people that she can play and act like a professional.
So there , you got my professional opinion...hope that helps.
Now, what is your take?
Golf Gender quiz results coming soon?
ReplyDeleteShe is quite the distraction. Especially when she wears strappy red dresses. How dare she be herself? Doesn't she know a woman's place is on the other golf course?
ReplyDeleteI hope she goes to Stanford and makes the team. How can a person be washed up, "old news", at age...17?
I think we will see a lot more of Wie...in red.